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Feb 20, 2013 6:00am EST
't mention the obama-care tax or payroll tax or any of that. those are all headwinds, too. >> listen, i think the impasse in washington is just crazy right now. i am absolutely for not having the sequestration. it's just too blunt of an object. >> but the two sides have not been able to -- >> zero. >> no common room -- common ground. >> if you could cut 85 you wanted to cut? >> in a nanosecond. >> do you have 85 you want to cut? >> do i know it off the top of my head. i think you need to still hit the revenue side. you need revenues and spending to be that fly% differential, you have to get there. you need revenues up by 18%. >> do you get that growing or additional taxes? >> i don't want to use the word taxes and i'm not trying to -- i don't think we're talking about tax rates here. there are certainly revenue loopholes we could be closing. >> we're supposed to close those to lower marginal rates. >> but we didn't. >> simpson-bowles we were lowering marginal rates and closing loopholes. now, we raise annual rates and you close loopholes. >> it's important we don't have these blunt objects be
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